574 | Gossip within, gossip without

Continuing from my previous post 573 | Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you

This is again in the context of group communication and about an interaction I had with someone in a chat, where the communication had been complicated from both sides. After an hour of chatting and me not seeing that we are getting somewhere or how I can assist/support, I suggested that they clarify this for themselves and get back to me once they can put it in words. I also suggested that perhaps another person with whom they’ve already established a connection /communication may be able to assist them in clarifying the point.
Some months later this person mentioned me during a group chat which I wasn’t able to attend, and referred to me saying I had treated them “as if they were the enemy”. The group chat was shared so I was able to read it afterwards, and when I read the comment I was curious to see where/how such impression was created, so I went back and read the chat I had with that person some months before.

I wanted to see where and how such resonance could be pin-pointed and whether there was something I missed within my own response/approach that day, so that I could understand more about the person but also more about myself/ my approach. But although I could see there was some difficulty in communication on both sides I did not find anything justifying/explaining the impression this person had of me. Which as such it’s fine to have impressions as points one can investigate for oneself and/or through communication, but being that I wasn’t present in the group chat where the comment was made about me, such comment then takes the form of gossip – which is sad because say for example someone new in the group was considering opening up communication with me but now they read this comment conveying such impression and now decide not to contact me.
Here one might say that each one is self-responsible, yet beyond that I find that we are also responsible for each other and for reactions/consequences we may be creating for everyone involved.

So here again the principle of self-honesty and the consideration of: How would I like to be supported (placing oneself in the shoes of another), where instead of gossip or instead of exposing a person’s misalignment to others, one can address the person directly and assist them to reach that understanding on their own, as a matter of awareness. Then, we’re talking about real change that can come through and that can be visible and resonant for everyone else, thus assisting not only one person but everyone involved.
The question also arises how such impression was created in the first place, and here we can see and understand how the gossip we entertain within (where one in one’s mind entertains chatter/ ideas/ interpretations about another), when not resolved /directed /clarified (because in fact any form of misunderstanding or miscommunication can, indeed, be clarified and resolved), may result in gossip without: where all accumulated impressions and ideas and projections about the other person now find a moment to vent out, in actual words, behind the person’s back.

But gossip never in fact defines whoever is being gossiped about – rather, it defines those gossiping about another and those engaging in or accepting the gossip as such.

Therefore, a self support point for anyone exposed to gossip or finding themselves engaging in gossip, whether silently in their own mind or out loud with other people: is to look at the content of the gossip and ‘take it back to self’, asking the question: how does this point pertain to me? Is it something I experience as a matter of habit? Meaning, is it a pattern in my own experience? Is it something I fear being judged about? Is it something I would tend to deny if another were to point out the very same thing about me? These are some examples of questions we can ask ourselves whenever we find ourselves going into gossip, even for a moment, to make sure that we do not create assumptions and interpretations within our own minds and/or the minds of others about other people – because clearly the first thing we need to take responsibility for or change or correct/align: is ourselves, and our relationship to our own mind.
Another interesting dimension of gossip, which I’m sure most people can relate to, is how through gossip we tend to form groupings and (silent) agreements, where the one creating the gossip will always search for people to agree with them, to validate them in their opinion – so that they can feel ‘empowered’ or ‘righteous’. This then obviously creates a form of separation, and as such it is a pattern that can be observed in the bigger picture of and as Humanity.
Thus, in terms of solutions, beyond the application of ‘bringing the point back to self’ to see where/how such ideas may already be existent within oneself, one can also reverse the point of gossip (which is about ‘having power over others through gossip’) and rather bring the whole thing into a constructive and supportive application that will be empowering for everyone involved.
We are all in the process of learning how to enhance our communication skills, how to make ourselves clear, and how to practically live the principles of self-honesty and mutual support based on how we ourselves would like to be approached/supported, when placing ourselves in the shoes of another.

It’s interesting how much conflict can emerge simply out of miscommunication or the lack of clarity in communication as well as the fact that we did not /do not learn to truly place ourselves in the shoes of another and ask ourselves at any given moment or situation: how can I participate in a way that is best for all, a way that supports life, that supports everyone in reaching their full potential.
So these are some pointers we can all take into consideration and practical application to truly explore and engage our full potential as life, as human beings on earth, this one reality we all share.

440 | Desteni I Witness – Debunking the Cult / Scam Rumors

This post can also be read in the context of

Day 425 | Planet Earth: Home of Egos. Desteni Predictions Stand the Test of Time

As many of you know I have been involved with the Desteni group since 2007 and have also visited the Desteni farm where the ‘founders’ of the movement live, albeit the Desteni movement is an international internet community that mainly work as internet activists.

I have seen that several fellow ‘Destonians’ – which by the way means nothing more and nothing less than the people embracing the principle of equality and oneness and introspecting in a process of ‘man know thyself’ to investigate where this principle which, when lived/applied would support life as a whole and thus all of us as life, where within oneself and one's life this principle is not being lived/applied and where and how we separate ourselves into concepts of inferiority and superiority, aka Ego, with the consequence that self-interest is placed before the interest of life, hence the current world system as a direct outflow/result of who we all are / who each individual is and how we co-exist –

...so I’ve seen that many fellow Destonians have recently published blogs and vlogs responding to (mainly) anonymous rumors about Desteni and the equal money movement being a cult or a scam and they shared their personal perspectives in terms of how they got to know the Desteni group, how they got involved in the various projects, how they started working on themselves, and what results they have achieved within themselves and their world. 

I will be writing my own Desteni I Witness Report because not only have I been involved in various projects (such as the Desteni Forums, the Equal Money System, the Shave Your Head for World Equality campaign, the Desteni I Process courses) but I have also visited the farm myself, thus I have a first hand experience and have literally been an Eye-Witness to what the Desteni group is and what Desteni presents and represents.

I will also be looking into the ‘hater’ phenomenon and the methods/tactics used by such (mostly anonymous) haters that cultivate cognitive disinformation and fear.

Here you can also have a look at my Anti-Hate Youtube channel, where I have uploaded some responses to such hater-posts and debunked the misleading words they present.

In this blog post I would like to summarize the main points that I have shared on this throughout the past 4-5 years, just to give an overview, a contextualized introduction. I will also share the links to the recent witness reports at the bottom of this blog post.

The main reason I embraced the Desteni message was the principle of equality and oneness as well as the premise that knowledge and information alone is useless – therefore this principle must be lived and applied within everything we do/participate-in/create as human beings, including the world system that is in fact our (all of us) creation. This practical approach that emphasizes the practical aspect of self-responsibility was something new, I had never throughout my truth-seeker years encountered any similar approach or wake-up call whatsoever;

which is also what got me interested to visit the farm and meet the people whom, until that point, I was only communicating with on the internet forums.

Fascinatingly enough, the Desteni message evolved in front of my eyes and during my involvement from a self-realization process that was focused more on individual awareness/awakening to a collective awareness process, hence for instance also the design of an equal money system (and no – despite the nasty remarks in the nature of “oh no, this is communism, run for your lives!” by people that never did their research or studied the model of equal money – equal money is not communism, in fact communism as such was just another power-abuse system with no actual, sustainable equality or quality for that matter), the design of self-awareness and relationship courses, the design of educational books and interview series including parenting support (visit the eqafe store and make sure to check out the free downloads as well!) and now the Basic Income Guaranteed proposal with practical solutions as to how we are able to adjust the capitalistic system in a way that it can not only ‘produce’ a living income for all but at the same time also allow the entire economy to flourish – for real, and without abuse, without exploitation.

By the way, apart from the educational courses and the products at eqafe (of which there is even a free online lite course that includes buddy-support as well as free products on eqafe!), no money or financial contribution is or has ever been asked by the Desteni group for one's participation in projects, forums, or even for visiting the farm. And I mean I have visited the farm so I know first hand, and I would like to stress this financial point because some anonymous trolls even went as far as saying we have now 'highjacked' the BIG (Basic Income Grant) idea and are trying to make money out of it - wow! What I can say to that is:

Basic Income has quite a history already, and what can be seen thus far is that we’ve been missing the Know-How to make it possible in the long-run, integrate it into the economy, make it sustainable and able to be implemented in any country. Therefore we at the Equal Life Foundation dedicate our contribution to showing the practical ways of implementing Basic Income, showing that it Can work and How it can work practically, as well as discussing how the systems of our world must be adjusted in order to facilitate Basic Income and also in order to allow the economy to flourish for real. Which is why we call our proposal Basic Income Guaranteed – because we show the way that, if incorporated and applied, will easily enable Basic Income, guaranteed, and will also guarantee a sustainable win-win outcome.

The practical steps shared within the Basic Income Guaranteed proposal: offer a way to a solution for our world system, a way to changing the 'rules of the game' into a win-win situation. Just do the math. Visit http://basicincomeguaranteed.wordpress.com/ and study this BIG solution that will not only allow the ECOnomy to flourish but will also ensure that every child born into this world has an equal right to a life of dignity, freedom, opportunity – for real.

So, ‘the process’ is evolving, is becoming bigger, BIG enough to include ALL – as that is the whole point of the ‘oneness and equality’ principle.

Interestingly enough, even though the models we design and propose ‘evolve’, the message remains the same: Oneness and Equality.

The point is to not have that principle be just another concept or ideology – thus the question is how to practically ‘get there’, how to live it / apply it within and as oneself individually, as well as how to get there as humanity the quickest so as to stop the atrocious conditions of starvation, poverty, hunger, war, exploitation, financial deception and abuse etc., and how to make the practical proposals such that they can be understood and embraced by all/the majority of humanity.

Why is this relevant? 

Because most paths of self-realization and awareness, as most well know especially in the new age era, are focused on personal enlightenment and on creating mental bubbles that keep one from facing reality while ignoring the actual suffering and the practical problems we are facing HERE on earth, individually and as humanity collectively; while ignoring the fact that we are All responsible for What Is Here, because What Is Here is the direct outflow of all our relationships, from the bigger to the smaller. Every breath each one takes and who/what one exists as within every breath: counts, and accumulates into what and how the System is today. It is OUR creation.

So here the point of Self-Responsibility and the point of Facing and Sorting-Out OUR HERE – our creation, ourselves, our relationships, our systems, our future, our home planet Earth, our humanity as Mankind.

Now there comes one group (Desteni) that says Humanity is One Group and Life Here is the Highest Value and we must see to it that the Value of Life is practically honoured and supported for all, to stop abuse once and for all and restore the value of life by manifesting ourselves and our world into a functional coexistence in dignity, in oneness and equality as life –

and we are a cult? Wow, how brainwashed must one be to react to a message that is Best for All with so much fear?

The question is:

Why do we, why do the cultures and systems of our world cultivate separation, instead of cultivating a culture of life that is in fact best for ALL as life?
Is it because we are brainwashed into separatism? Is it because we merely follow belief systems? Is it because we insist on holding on to (each their OWN) different ‘gods’ and ‘religions’ and ‘values’ and ‘nations’ and ‘traditions’ and ignore the fact that what we do ‘in the name of god’ is often against life?

Is it because we are brainwashed into fear? Is it because we are brainwashed into ‘justifying’ the existence of fear and separation, as if there were no other way to LIVE and co-exist here?
As long as fear governs our world – no one is free.
And no one is really free until ALL life is free.
Because Life is interdependent, interconnected, One.
And unless all parts of Life self-realize their interconnectedness which implies their EQUALITY AS LIFE, there can be no peace, no freedom, no life in fact – as there will be conflict, competition, abuse, struggle for survival, war.

In a world of such separatism, where every grouping is in fact a cult, exclusive to its 'own', and never all-inclusive as LIFE, as a whole – to call the Desteni movement a cult can only come from people that have not looked into what it is we are actually presenting and representing.
 

I implore the reader to make sure one investigate what Desteni stands for before making assumptions that only reflect one’s own fears and limitations of mind.

The fact the many people exist in fear of being brainwashed indicates one thing: that one is not aware of the fact that one is already brainwashed into a consumer, a willing servant of money as profit, a fearful subordinate of the system – a system that dictates survival and makes a struggle out of life/living.

Haven’t you ever wondered how come there are so many groups, so many religions, so many groupings talking bad about each-other in this world, the ones blaming the others, pointing fingers, hating, fearing – where did this all start? And why do we believe we have to keep accepting it?
 

When I was a child, I remember having these questions, and not understand why such fear and hatred was ruling the hearts of me.
When I grew up, I was attracted to spirituality because I existed in the hope that there must be something ‘good’ somewhere, so I believed in waking the ‘good’ in the human, so that the human may awaken to a better existence on earth.
 

What I had not considered is that the bad I was witnessing, as for instance fear, control, manipulation, abuse, could only exist through the human. Take the human out of the equation, and the system of abuse stops.
What I had further not considered is how it is vital to understand Why and How the bad exists, to understand its creation and functioning in all its mechanisms, as that is the only way to stop it – taking responsibility for Who we are and How we are. After all, that IS what creates the world, the system, our existence.

When I came across the Desteni forums and discussions I was quick to realize that I had missed a point – the point of responsibility, which cannot be taken on without first stopping the denial and suppression one had allowed in one’s hope for something good 'out there somewhere', something better coming from 'outside'; which is where I was at, at that point.

 

So I do understand why people can’t hear the Desteni message – You can’t, if you are so desperately busy denying your responsibility, denying the fact that you, just like everyone else, are brainwashed into acceptance and allowance, brainwashed into dreaming, wanting, needing, desiring, fearing, and making THAT more important and more valuable than Life itself.
 

Unless we STOP our DENIAL - we cannot really move, evolve, and change this world, that is our creation, through responsibility and self-realization as life, as creators.

It's time we Realize the collective responsibility we all equally share for What Is Here within and as our existence.
It's time we Realize that What Is Here is here through our acceptance and allowance, through the permission we give by submitting to the system without questioning the system in all possible ways.
 

It's time we see and realize that unless LIFE stands as one group, on this one planet we share, and bring forth an existence where all life is equally supported, we cannot stop this profit-driven, life-exploiting system and put an end to the atrocious abuse that's being allowed.

It's time to Stop and re-evaluate everything we have accepted in this world.

 

Check out some Desteni Witness Reports:

A Witness Blog: I Have Done my Research and Desteni is Not a Scam – by Matti Freeman

and part 2: An example of Self-Honesty

The Desteni Group – Is it a Cult? Facts and Fiction – by Anna Brix Thomsen

The Words of the Desteni Group Dissected – by Anna Brix Thomsen  

Desteni: An Insider’s Report – by Marlen Vargas Del Razo 

and part 2: Desteni Insider – God, Spirituality, The Afterlife 

Desteni Witness: The ‘Scam’ and Secret of Self Forgiveness – by Eleonora Gozzini  

Desteni Witness – by Christine Hansen

I Testify – Witness Statement by Viktor Persson 

My Walking with Desteni isn’t a Scam – by Sylvia Simone Gerssen 

Check out the Basic Income Guaranteed – with solutions that can be established in this lifetime to end the disaster of a profit driven system.


Check out the Desteni I Process Lite – a FREE course that will assist humanity to end the disaster of a dysfunctional consciousness.


Check out the Bill of Rights @ the Equal Life Foundation - a comprehensive approach to our Co-existence to ensure the Right to Life, Freedom and Dignity for All.
  

Blogs to Study:

Basic Income Guaranteed - Home - With Blogs & News
Economist's Journey to Life - BIG Solutions for the World's Economy
Politics and Political Action Re-Evaluated

Criminology, Cause & Effect, and How to establish a Society that's Pro-Life
Practicality for the Transcendence Process of Human Systems

Common Sense Considerations in the Light of Mankind's History

Psychology and How it can be used to Support Human Life

MUST-READ on Life and Creation:

http://creationsjourneytolife.blogspot.com

http://earthsjourneytolife.blogspot.com

http://heavensjourneytolife.blogspot.com

http://activistsjourneytolife.blogspot.com
http://desteni.org/articles

For support and participation visit:
http://forum.desteni.org

http://desteniIprocess.com

Join us in the Journey to Life !


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http://EarthGlobalReview.wordpress.com
http://equal-money-revolution.blogspot.com

Day 94: Deconstructing Characters – The Chameleon Personality Suit

Today my grandmother was celebrating her 94^th birthday. All the family gathered at her house, and I met cousins, aunts and uncles I hadn’t seen for quite some time, some with new born babies that I hadn’t yet met.

The family structure in terms of relationships, gags and jokes hasn’t changed, and I found myself trying to ‘find my place’ within that context. The red flag went up within me the moment I found myself smiling while the kids around me gossiped at the cost of one particular person, and immediately I realized that that person could have been anyone, it could have been me.

I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed myself to see, realize and understand that family is the smallest system unit within which we learn how to behave (interesting that the word ‘behave’ consists of the words ‘be’ and ‘have’), how to manipulate, how to compare, how to judge, how to define ourselves and others through and as consciousness – that is: in separation and self-interest, not as life in oneness based on the value of life as equality.

I forgive myself that I’ve accepted and allowed myself to submit to ‘peer pressure’ within the family, not realizing that such ‘peer pressure’ is actually an inner pressure existent only through one’s own acceptance and allowance, as I am the one that decides whether or not I submerge myself to the judgments, opinions and power-games of a group.

I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed myself to see, realize and understand that family is the smallest group that in fact represents humanity, because who we are and how we behave in our closest relationships is what manifests the bigger picture in the world as we know it.

I forgive myself that I’ve accepted and allowed myself to wear personalities like suits: different personalities for different situations, acting out different characters with different people – this clearly showing that we do not exist in integrity as life, but in separation and deception through and as consciousness, as if life is a game and we are just characters playing a role.

I commit myself to sharing the common sense that life is not a game and therefore we should stop existing like characters in a role play and stand-up to take responsibility for life.

I commit myself to sharing the common sense that we require to change and transform the dynamics of our relationships from separation and self-interest to oneness and equality as life; and that this implies the willingness to place self in the shoes of another and always make sure that one’s thoughts, words and deeds are aligned to what is best for ALL, supporting others as I would like to be supported, treating others as I would like to be treated.

I commit myself to – through self-honesty and self-forgiveness – deconstruct the characters/personalities I have created/adopted throughout my life in an attempt to cope with my world as consciousness, so that I may stand in equality and oneness as life and live an example of what it practically means to purify our relations and interactions and do unto another as I would like to have done unto me.

I commit myself to showing how personality consciousness is always about self-interest, seeking its ‘likes’ to form groups of interest that then compete with other groups of interest – when in fact humanity as LIFE is ONE group which, if we would stand together equally as ONE, could manifest heaven on earth and a dignified life for ALL.

I commit myself to showing how personality consciousness exists as characters in a movie, where the ego is always the super-hero around which the rest of the world revolves; which explains why the world is what it is today, with everyone competing against each-other, existing in separation and defining self and each-other in terms of ‘superiority’ and ‘inferiority’ through the mental, while disregarding the physical equality we all share as physical bodies on this physical planet that gives us life.

I commit myself to showing that by existing as personalities we exist like shape-shifting chameleons, changing suits to fit our self-interest dependent on where we are and who we communicate with;

and that we are not really in fact communicating with each-other as life, we do not in fact have substantial and intimate relationships, but are merely acting out characters just like in Hollywood, with each Ego acting like the super-hero that’s trying to manifest a ‘happy end’ based on the ideas, beliefs, fears and desires one was conditioned through, while disregarding the value of life as equality as the air we all breathe on this earth that sustains us.

I commit myself to showing how consciousness has no conscience as it only exists in self-interest with a one-dimensional point of view that places self/Ego as the ‘I’ of the pyramid while everyone else is placed in roles designed to ‘validate’ the character(s) that the Ego/consciousness identifies with.

I commit myself to assisting and supporting myself and my world to see, realize and understand that if we want to birth ourselves as life and equally manifest LIFE on earth: we cannot keep following self-interest trapped in the veils of consciousness that is conditioned through the system to consider only the fake ‘values’ presented in the world as ‘power’-

and that instead we require to acknowledge that our existence has become a crime against life in all possible ways, and therefore we require to restore the value of life within ourselves and all the systems of our world in such way that ALL life is EQUALLY supported in all possible ways.

I commit myself to assisting and supporting myself and my world to understand the programs through and as which consciousness operates – so that we may free ourselves from the prison of the mind, end the separation that we submit ourselves to, and re-educate ourselves in self-honesty and common sense; making ourselves worthy of life and equally manifesting a world/society worthy of life that honors life in all possible ways.

I commit myself to assisting and supporting myself and my world to remove the veils of self-delusion, self-dishonesty and self-deception, so that we may self-realize life and stop existing as characters in a Hollywood movie while 2/3 of the world population, animals and nature are left to suffer and deteriorate.

I commit myself to showing that it is possible to stand-up in self-responsibility and self-dignity as life and stop existing through and as consciousness which is merely layers of pretense as the roles we personify like chameleons in survival mode.

I commit myself to showing that in the context of LIFE/LIVING, it is possible to change our existence in such a way that we no longer have to hide or pretend, but can finally get to know ourselves, each-other and our world as LIFE and form relationships of actual intimacy and support based on who we really are as life, not who we pretend to be as consciousness.

I commit myself to establishing self-trust and self-stability, so that I may establish myself as a sovereign being, equal and one, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow; facing every moment and every situation from the starting-point of what is best for all as life, and not from the starting-point of self-interest as consciousness/personality/ego.

I commit myself to showing that the desteni I process is the first and only structured support in the world that assists in recognizing and removing the layers of self-delusion, self-dishonesty and self-deception through self-honesty, self-forgiveness and self-will –

a process through which we, as self-willed individuals, enable ourselves to stand in self-responsibility and dignify our existence within and without;

and that this process of self-purification/ self-correction/ self-realization lived and applied visibly and shared with/within one’s world: is in fact the only way to change and transform our existence from ego/consciousness into LIFE/awareness and manifest a new world where all life is in fact equally honored and supported as one.

Read up on the MIND and CREATION:
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http://earthsjourneytolife.blogspot.com
http://heavensjourneytolife.blogspot.com
http://desteni.org/articles
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