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Mittwoch, 10. April 2013

346 | Is Equal Money a Planned Economy - part3

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This is a continuation of the discussion shared under
Is Equal Money a planned economy
and 
Is Equal Money a planned economy - part2
which I'd suggest reading for context.



I received some comments on the subject, which I share here together with my perspectives:


<<Planned economy means that small group is empowered to decide what will be produced, and how much, and at what price.>>

This would not be the case in an ems. None of the policies will or should be decided this way ie. by a ‘small group’.



<<It does not mean that things actually unfold according to plan. In fact that has never been the case. Predicting what an entire population will want is a staggeringly hard problem. Inevitably there will be over-production of some things (like the empty malls in China) and under-production of other things (food shortages are a classic example, and they're a regular problem in planned economies).>>

‘Planning’ does not exclude that we are able to monitor the developments and on the way make adjustments that are best – according to the actuality of the matters, which implies a very real and pragmatic approach.



<<Markets are not immune to problems of over-production and under-production, but markets enable diversity, so that as some participants get it wrong, there will be others who may get it right. Markets also enable agility, so that when problems become evident, participants are free to address them as quickly as possible. Whereas in planned economies it takes time for the planners to recognize the problem, make decisions, and have those decisions communicated and carried out.>>

Markets are not able to do anything by themselves. Yes, diversity and agility are important, and recognizing problems does not have to ‘take time’.
It is not practical to compare the ems with any planned economy of the past or the present because this is simply not what we are proposing, as can be seen throughout all the documents we have published thus far. I’d suggest using the search button on our websites and Blogs for s more specific/detailed research. I could go and find some relevant links for you, but my time is limited.



<<It also tends to be the case that the planners do not have "skin in the game." They don't personally experience the effects of their decisions, so they're not as motivated as people whose income depends on making good decisions (e.g. entrepreneurs).>>

This should not be the case – for example farmers or people involved in food production should be directly involved in the planning, the monitoring and the adjusting of decisions/plans pertaining to crops and the how-to of food production.



<<When EMS adherents say that food production will be solved by having everyone do four years of mandatory employment in that industry, that's an example of economic planning.>>

Food production Is currently a problem, given that there is enough of everything for all but not all get it, plus tremendous amounts of production go to waste. A planned food production is thus definitely worth a try if it means feeding all and stopping the wasting of food. Crops are relatively predictable – now imagine the farmers of the world working together, you’d be planting according to climate, season, soil etc., you’d be rotating accordingly, you’d be taking care of all things that must be taken care of for a successful production, PLUS you can within that also work on purifying the soils from all the chemicals and discuss, test-out and implement the best ways to work the earth. When all of this no longer is subject to profit, real solutions will be possible.
Currently, real solutions are not possible, because what gets promoted is what brings profit only. See the whole Monsanto & co. story.

Also, to clarify, what we have discussed in terms of 'mandatory employment' is a service to replace for instance military service and it's not only about food production. It's a cool model really, I mean - work with the firemen, work with the sewers, work with the railway people, work with the farmers, work with the garbage men, to name a few examples; get to know and assist in maintaining and equipping the infrastructure of what literally makes the world go round. Isn't that much better than military service? Isn't it also a way to explore and express a form of equality as the value of life and a form of respect to everything and everyone that makes a life of progress, advancement and luxury possible for all? It would also be a way to travel and get to know places, get to know aspects of the world and the system, get to know one's own preferences and abilities. After such 'service time', we'd each be literally free to do whatever we dream of, are good at, talented in, wish to study, explore, express, contribute. I mean that would then be the opportunity for self-growth at its utmost and the freedom to explore life/living, equally accessible to ALL.



<<Mandating equal compensation for everyone is economic planning to an extreme degree. It's basically price-fixing for any type of labor. Price fixing schemes inevitably result in shortages and excesses as the central planners over- or under-estimate demand or supply.>>

Have you seen / realized that the equal money income is what everyone would receive/have, but it does not mean it is not possible to have more earnings?
Price fixing in the current system and pricing in an ems cannot be compared. I’d suggest joining the forums for further study and discussions.
By typing "prices" in the search button on the following Blogs you get interesting results:
Marlen Life Blog and Economist's Journey to Life.
See also the Equal Money Wiki



<<I'm willing to be that the first jurisdiction that implements EMS is going to have a great shortage of doctors and engineers, but a huge supply of artists of all kinds.>>

Have a look at the discussion and documents on Equal Money Capitalism. An ems is not something that can be implemented from one day to another – see what we are discussing under Equal Money Capitalism.



<<free markets are not "planned" as there is no central authority empowered to make decisions for everyone else. Rather, everyone who participates in the market can make their own plans. Whether or not those plans actually pan out is determined by how well the market participants can predict supply and demand for whatever they're buying and selling.>>

'Free markets’ are an illusion, and because it seems to be working for 'some' sometimes - it gets everyone else hoping for the 'jackpot'. So we end up with a casino-like system as if life was just a game, without really taking care of everyone's basic needs, education, health care, etc.

Under the following links you'll find the results to relevant topics (I did a search on "free market"): Marlen Life Blog and Economist's Journey to Life.
Also, on 'Free Markets' have a listen to Chomsky.




<<There's no government setting the prices, production quotas, and so on.>>

Of course not, governments do not have power, they are dictated by the corporations. Corporations control the prices, production quotas and so on, with no regard for the actual needs of the people or what is good for the human organism and the earth as such. Then people vote for governments and have the illusion that democracy exists.



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a solution that can be established in this lifetime to end the disaster of a profit driven system.


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Relevant Blogs to follow:



MUST-READ on Life and Creation:


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http://equalmoney.org/forum/


Join us in the Journey to Life !


Downloadables @ eqafe for FREE:
Quantum Mind Self Awareness - Step 1 and Step 2 <<< MP3 Downloads
* LifeReview - My Life as a Peace Activist <<< MP3 Download
The Spirituality of the Snail <<< MP3 Download
Spirituality Under the Microscope - Volume 2 <<< PDF Download
How I was able to Hear the Desteni Message <<< PDF Download - Blog Compilation

What the FAQ in an Equal Money System – Volume 2 <<< PDF Download
Hell Spoof <<< MP3 Download - Music for Equality
What makes me Starve in a World of Plenty <<< MP3 Download - Music for Equality



Visit my Blog sites:
http://breath-expression.blogspot.com
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http://EarthGlobalReview.wordpress.com

Donnerstag, 4. April 2013

340 | Is Equal Money a planned economy - part2





To give a short answer - No. To give another short answer - Yes.
LOL - A longer one (see part 1 here) would be that the equal money system is a plan to make it work for all. There is predictability in statistics, there is predictability in crops, there is predictability in systems, there is predictability in programs. Why then use systems that create a Homo Consumens, why use systems that create inequality and fear, why use systems that create dependency and abuse? Why not utilize the statistics, the facts and the knowledge that we do have, to create equal life opportunities for everyone and a truly sustainable way of life/living on our planet! It would be foolish not to. There is no plan B and the alternative is to crash in the hands of the 'big brothers' in the illusion of choice and in fear.

Many people see politics's only choice being that between a 'free market' and 'planned economy'. That is so limited, let alone that the very terms as such activate the respective perception filters of the human mind that have been conditioned through the consumerism system addressing their fears and their desires. Why else would one refuse to see that the 'free market' is not free and planned economies were never planned without power abuse, were never completely in the interest of life as equality. Does this mean we can never have a real free market or plan our economy in the best, most effective way that'll work for all, including the planet that sustains us –


So, today I came across the following interview and I'd like to share it – Some interesting speculations in this podcast, yet all in all it's showing clearly how all politics ties together into the financial- and resources war that is led by the big brothers at the cost of the citizens of the earth and the earth itself – showing as well that the 'free market' exists in the name of narco money and the war industry and is as such not 'free'.

There does exist currently such thing as 'central planning', the whole casino-system of this world is planned and played centrally=globally by those few that pull the strings that steer the money/resources/energy movement to serve the dictatorship of money/profit – but it's 'hidden' because it is ‘the bigger picture’. And yet, as also this report shows, people do and are able to see what is going on.






I found interesting the context given on trade zones and 'political' thinking /how 'political' thinking is formed according to 'trade' and 'trade zones', the 'free market' mainly revolving around mineral/diamond mining/exploitation, gas and natural resources, narcotics and the war industry.

So the question is – why do we not look, why do we not see, it’s all here, one has to look at the bigger picture and investigate what it is that ‘moves’ everything and keeps the world running and How.

That’s what we did and are doing at Desteni, specifically taking on the money-system:

Redefining politics into real democracy and into policies that truly support life, to stop the war on earth and put an end to the power-games in our existence.
In essence reevaluating life and living, reevaluating ourselves and our relationships – because, in the end, what’s it gonna be?

Will we have a New World Order that is but the mutation resulting out of the old world order of slavery, power-abuse, war and exploitation in the name of ‘profit’ and ‘progress’, or will we have a New World where we do not need to be ordered because we stand as responsible individuals in self-realization as life and thus bring forth real progress, real evolution, real profit for life, for the human race, for the earth that sustains us. Is it ‘difficult’ to see that it would be best for each one and for all of us together if we came to ways and systems of co-existence that are ‘best for all’ based on agreements that are ‘best for all’ – in common sense, on common ground, for a common interest that is LIFE or at least should be, as that would mean ‘heaven on earth’. What determines the possibility or impossibility of such outcome but you and me and everyone on earth together in every moment.

We are doing it already, we are creating our world by our mere existence, through all action and inaction – we are a Oneness and consequences always hit all equally in the END – so the question would be: do we allow our Oneness to be dictated through power-abuse and inequality or do we stand-up to form a Oneness of equality, of dignity, of integrity, of life – for LIFE

What is humanity going to do?

I know what I am going to do, I am doing it already. I am walking this Journey to Life. Thanks for reading.





Suggested Reading:


The Power of Money





 



















Check out the Equal Money System –  
a solution that can be established in this lifetime to end the disaster of a profit driven system.


Check out the Desteni I Process Lite –  
FREE course that will assist humanity to end the disaster of a dysfunctional consciousness.



Relevant Blogs to follow:



MUST-READ on Life and Creation:


For support and participation visit:
http://forum.desteni.org
http://equalmoney.org/forum/


Join us in the Journey to Life !


Downloadables @ eqafe for FREE:
Quantum Mind Self Awareness - Step 1 and Step 2 <<< MP3 Downloads
* LifeReview - My Life as a Peace Activist <<< MP3 Download
The Spirituality of the Snail <<< MP3 Download
Spirituality Under the Microscope - Volume 2 <<< PDF Download
How I was able to Hear the Desteni Message <<< PDF Download - Blog Compilation

What the FAQ in an Equal Money System – Volume 2 <<< PDF Download
Hell Spoof <<< MP3 Download - Music for Equality
What makes me Starve in a World of Plenty <<< MP3 Download - Music for Equality



Visit my Blog sites:
http://breath-expression.blogspot.com
http://equal-money-revolution.blogspot.com
http://EarthGlobalReview.wordpress.com

Mittwoch, 3. April 2013

339 | What’s Hitler got to do with it?






As I’ve been documenting in my previous blog posts, there’s been an interesting call-it ‘development’ on Quora after me and some fellow Destonians started participating on the platform – an anonymous internet troll fled the Quora platform with misleading Questions on Desteni, the Destonians and the Equal Money movement. Really nasty shit actually, and for anyone interested I refer to my previous blog posts as well as to the links I provide in the end of this post.

Hitler has as much to do with the Destonians as anonymous haters (for lack of a better word) make belief by spreading misleading pieces of information, placing words out of context, suggesting assumptions and engineering perception, trolling and mobbing around the internet – always faceless, always anonymous, always nasty.
The context of the Hitler reference in the Desteni material is within realizing that anyone could have been Hitler, anyone could have been Stalin, anyone could have been Bush. A Hitler, a Stalin, any man or woman, do not create themselves alone. We are all responsible for the existence of a Hitler, of a Stalin, of the one or the other Bush in this world. We are all responsible for what is accepted and allowed in this world, in every corner, in every moment. This is OUR creation. The challenge would be to understand How this is all created. And a question that should not be ignored is: Had you been Hitler, and had you come to realize what you have done, what you have created yourself as, and what effect you have caused as a consequence – would you be able to forgive yourself?

But, careful – Before some anonymous gives it a ‘nice try’ I’d like to clarify: Self-forgiveness here can also be used/abused to make it all seem like it’s about “oh I’ve gone and killed someone so now I am going to forgive myself”. This is Not self-forgiveness – this is self-deception and justification of crime in self-righteousness.

Self-forgiveness is about integrity, it cannot be ‘made up’ or ‘claimed’ – it must be real. It’s about realizing what and how we have become and what our world has become, and due to the acceptance of what influences/beliefs/mentalities; it’s about realizing that each one can only find the forgiveness within self, as each one can only find the power within self: to stop, to breathe, to change, to give oneself (and everyone else) a life that is worthy of life.
Forgiveness through another can even be one’s fall as it can be taken as an ‘excuse’ and ‘justification’ to continue doing what you had asked forgiveness for. Again, this is about self-honesty – and self-honesty is something ‘difficult’ in this world apparently.
Self-forgiveness in self-honesty is a practical tool that assists one in seeing through the self-deception and realizing self-responsibility, in making a stand, in self-realizing life. But it is obviously useless to write or speak self-forgiveness without in fact changing, without actually living the change, without being the living-proof. Each one must be one’s own proof – otherwise how can one even trust oneself. At the same time everyone and everything else is and must be a reference point – no man is an island, and this world is in fact a co-existence. We create ourselves and each-other. We create our relationships. We create our societies, our systems. But where is within that the responsibility towards life? Where within that is the act of honoring the value of life? And is it really impossible to have relationships, to have a society, a system, that honor life?

Life is interdependent. This is our Oneness. But without equality – without equally honoring the value of life in all that is here – there can be no dignity, no respect, no freedom.

That’s also the challenge of the equal money movement: Will we be able to forgive all past systems and let them go – get over ourselves and move on? Will we be able to forgive ourselves the fear and the submission? Will we stand together as human beings to work out what really works – for all.
So – the whole point of the Desteni research and activism is within the context of education – to lift the veils that are the layers of mind control, to understand how things in this world work, to realize responsibility – and get to self-realization as life and thus to common sense as life.

Seriously, if we don’t find it within ourselves to work together as equals, as human beings – this world is gonna get very, very messy, and no one is gonna have real fun being part of it. I’d rather be part of the solution and find ways to change the course of our existence, than sit and wait for the consequences to compound.



So back to the point; it is rather stupid to make it about sensationalism and gossip instead of exploring the message that is being shared and investigating the point that’s being made. If anyone REALLY wanted to find an answer to the question, they’d go to the websites at source and check it out. They would not place a question on Quora, lol.
Misleading questions (as proven in the past few weeks, right after some Destonians started using Quora) have been repeatedly posted by ‘anonymous’ with a clear intent to manipulate opinions and perception with words, to spread fear and to take over the narrative about what the equal money system is or what the Desteni group is, when we ourselves, individually and as EMS and Desteni have websites, forums, channels, Blogs, and thus a public record on the internet that goes back more than 5 years, documenting both a collective process as well as the individual processes each one of us are walking and sharing. We participate with our real names.
It is sad that the Quora platform is not efficiently moderated and cannot prevent or direct abuse. There are other social media platforms where things work differently and with clear guidelines that do not allow abuse, defamation, or personal attacks.

For the serious reader I’d suggest to visit the Equal Money and Desteni websites, forums, and Youtube channels as well as see the numerous daily Blogs, and take the time to do the research rather than following the leads of cognitive disinformation. 



Oh btw here are our Wiki entries in relation to Desteni Criticism and Scams Abusing the Desteni name




“Everybody is Acting in Self-Preservation. Hitler Acted in Self-Preservation. The German people Acted in Self-Preservation. In the Revenge that the Jews are taking on the Germans about this – they are Acting in Self-Preservation. And the Jews holding the Palestinians in Gaza, is an Act of Self-Preservation. The Acts of Mr Anonymous is Self-Preservation, because he’s doing it for Money and for Building his Own Self-Ego. And, the same happened with the Quorans – Acted in Self-Preservation, Preserving the Ego, Preserving their ‘way of life’, which is All Actually just a Mental Condition. The Fact that for instance, Mr Anonymous so effectively Demonstrate How Hitler Functions in a Modern-Society and where a Single Person just with Words and Fear can Generate a Total Mob that will Act like a Cult – and All of these people are apparently Highly Educated: just Shows the Reality of our Current Level of Brainwashing that Exist in this World. All of you have to Consider Forgiveness, because – you are All Acting in ways that is Not Best for All on Earth and therefore, you are Part of the Problem on Earth. Realising that is the Beginning of Change. Realising that is Actually very Powerful, because you can Then Find out what Real Integrity is and what Power is: The Power of Self Forgiveness, the Power of Self Honesty. Investigate Desteni, and Equal Money, and Set yourself Free from your Fears.

So, a Last Word for Mr Anonymous: what you are doing on Quora is a Crime. In South Africa it’s called “Crimen injuria” in getting the Group to participate in it, the Quorans – make of them Criminals. It is interesting that your Actions has Led to a Point where the Destonians are called a “Religious Group”. In South Africa Religious Groups have extreme Protection under the Bill of Rights with the Equality Clause. You are misleading others, and you are Taking people with you. They’re not Innocent, unfortunately – because: they should have had some Integrity. They didn’t.“


I’d suggest reading the whole analysis, as well as the rest of the series:

Noam Chomsky Quote Experiment on Quora with Anonymous


The Ku-Klux Klan on Quora



Plus read:

The Greatest World Teacher of our Time, G.W. Bush





 


























Check out the Equal Money System –  
a solution that can be established in this lifetime to end the disaster of a profit driven system.


Check out the Desteni I Process Lite –  
FREE course that will assist humanity to end the disaster of a dysfunctional consciousness.



Relevant Blogs to follow:



MUST-READ on Life and Creation:


For support and participation visit:
http://forum.desteni.org
http://equalmoney.org/forum/


Join us in the Journey to Life !


Downloadables @ eqafe for FREE:
Quantum Mind Self Awareness - Step 1 and Step 2 <<< MP3 Downloads
* LifeReview - My Life as a Peace Activist <<< MP3 Download
The Spirituality of the Snail <<< MP3 Download
Spirituality Under the Microscope - Volume 2 <<< PDF Download
How I was able to Hear the Desteni Message <<< PDF Download - Blog Compilation

What the FAQ in an Equal Money System – Volume 2 <<< PDF Download
Hell Spoof <<< MP3 Download - Music for Equality
What makes me Starve in a World of Plenty <<< MP3 Download - Music for Equality



Visit my Blog sites:
http://breath-expression.blogspot.com
http://equal-money-revolution.blogspot.com
http://EarthGlobalReview.wordpress.com